u/AdTypical3295 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Yeah I did not know the answers to all of these and I am impressed!
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
cc u/InTheDarkDancing, I commented on this today elsewhere and adding here for consistency.
I also appreciate the blog post explaining how Codesmith supports CIRR. I don't have a problem with Codesmith's position on CIRR, but what I have a problem with is people blindly supporting Codesmith as the "best bootcamp" because of their CIRR outcomes and regurgitating their marketing as unwavering fact. These are smart people, who want six figures jobs levering their problem solving and critical thinking abilities and regurgitating marketing without thinking critically about it is not demonstrating that ability.
Codesmith directly comments about how important equity and bonuses are in compensation. Yet they continue to market their CIRR results (which explicitly only include base salary and exclude stock and bonuses) solely as a marketing strategy to make a claim they are better than other bootcamps... and it's effective at influencing people to join.
If Codesmith wanted to accurately communicate their outcomes, they would make a new, audited, standard that addresses equity and bonuses, and the background of people before starting. Instead they are leveraging CIRR because their CIRR outcomes are so strong they make all the other bootcamps look terrible.
If I was Codesmith, I might also do this strategy, but Codesmith students, alumni, prospective students, place use critical thinking and talk about why Codesmith is good day to day, rather than touting only their CIRR results. Talk about instruction quality, project quality, community, etc...!