u/AdTypical3295 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I have seen the spreadsheets and the numbers are real - grads are making really great money - but I wonder if it will continue with the economy the way it is. Michael why do you care about CIRR - just curious
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hi, yeah to be very clear, I'm not doubting the CIRR results or the integrity of the CIRR process, nor am I criticizing Codesmith, I'm just think it's something notable to be aware of: that CIRR has pros and cons like anything else.
CIRR is strictly based on base salary only and Codesmith alumni with good jobs have stock and bonuses that are completely excluded so their real numbers are better than CIRR reports.
If I was Codesmith, I would try to get a more wholistic view of TC into CIRR. Which yes might benefit them, but also might make CIRR more accurate. Lots of ways of looking at things!
To answer the question though, I'm interested in it because a lot of people rely on CIRR as the source of truth as there's nothing else to go off of, and I want to help people make the right choice for the right reasons and ultimately help people find their right starting point in their careers.
A lot of the people I talk I end up telling them to go to Codesmith and we talk about the reasons why it's better for them over other places and the people feel much more confident in their decision, whereas having CIRR shoved in their face makes them feel a bit sketchy about it (or a cult-like feeling of trusting the system, or trust the results, without explaining how it actually works).