u/Thinkinaboutu wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
>Or report it to CIRR possibly would be a better action. I will say one of the things that does leave me scratching my head a bit is that employees/co-founders of these major bootcamps like Codesmith, Launch Academy, etc... are actually the board members for CIRR, you can see th
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Codesmith is not a board member but yeah CIRR is a business league/lobbying group. Nothing wrong with that, but people have gone on giant rants about how CIRR is the only thing that can be trusted and it's cult-like misdirection. It's reliable but you need to understand how it works, like any other source of information you rely on.
There aren't any secret conspiracies, but yeah the "standards" are created by bootcamp leaders and they are designed to help bootcamps highlight their strengths. They hide the results by adding levels of data - so first they fork off people who graduated and then they fork off people who have jobs - and then they show all their salary data.
For example, at Codesmith somewhere around 85% +/- 5% of people graduate on time and get jobs within six months, but their 125K median is only of THOSE PEOPLE and does not factor in the people who didn't get jobs or didn't graduate. And the CIRR standards work this way to make the numbers look at good as possible. In all fairness most bootcamps look pretty bad on CIRR (and many have dropped out of it) and Codesmith stands relatively strong compared to all of them.