CIRR results for 2021 up!

Thanks for sharing. Yeah we lose a lot of context on Reddit and my writing might come across more mean than it's meant. I love that Codemsith has helped so many people and had a major impact on people's lives. We need way more people working to make tech a better place. Thanks for writing this out and I'll be more cognizant of this in the future. 100% compared to other bootcamps, there are so many bad apples out there that are genuinely not great intentioned. Sophie, the founder of Formation was a mentor at different programs and wanted to do better, which is why she started Buildschool all by herself - a free iOS bootcamp. That evolved into Formation when I joined on and we realized we needed to raise funding to hire top tier engineers in the industry (mostly from Facebook, so we can debate that haha) to help scale out truly one-of-a-kind approach to training. I think we need more people who really do want to make the industry better and we shouldn't be debating. I talk a lot about practical things, but Sophie inspires me every day to give my 24/7 to helping Fellows and improving our product. I'm definitely aware people talk about Formation in Codesmith channels. But I swear to blank I don't know anyone that has said "I was thinking of going to Codesmith and I went to Formation", maybe it's just because we are so much smaller. And like I said, people with experience who have decent DS&A skills might be competitive and I would definitely get into a debate about that. I can't give out personal information that's not public, but \[Chris G\]([https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherguizzetti/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherguizzetti/)) is someone public on our webpage who did Codesmith, did a 9 month contract, ended, came to Formation, has an incredible full blown SWE job at Snap on AR. This is a very typical outcome for people with this profile and this is our standard ideal Fellow that we think our program is for right now. To say we are competitive is saying that Chris G could have gone back to Codesmith from scratch again? Or that the Codesmith alumni network could have gotten him that job without Formation? Again, I can't give personal information, but someone like this wouldn't just do DS&A cramming for the interview, we fill in system design gaps with senior and staff engineers from Reddit, Oracle, Facebook, Uber, and we work on technical behavioral and telling your story with directors from Lyft, Facebook, and senior hiring managers. There's a lot that goes into it from our side and it's all driven by our technology behind the scenes... crunching what people need to do week to week, scheduling hundreds of micro-sessions every week that work for all the different people's schedules. It's just like not remotely similar to Codesmith at all.