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u/Foreign-Ad-7627 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Michael I am so confused why you believe Codesmith grads are faking it till they make it. Codesmith has a very challenging admissions process. You do not come in at 0. They take grads from 60 to 120 - meaning you need to know some fairly complex things to even get in. I find it s

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hi, I appreciate the non-crazy tone, but I have some corrections and other responses: 1. I'm not the CEO of Formation. Sophie is the founder and CEO and the true driver of the mission. I'm here because I have a personal interest in helping people early in their careers after doing so for many years and seeing what impact it can have on people. 2. Formation is not a bootcamp no matter how you frame it. We relentlessly provide technical training until you get a new job you are happy with, no matter how long it takes, I think the average is around 6 months (not sure). We refuse to work with people looking for a quick bootcamp to whip them into shape for an upcoming interview, for example. 3. Codesmith is not our competition. I lose sleep over Interview Kickstart, Outco, Pathrise, Scalar, Exponent, etc... and not about Codesmith. 4. The day to day is nothing like a bootcamp or any kind of fixed program. We generate schedules every week that contain completely new things to work on and small group sessions to attend. You can ramp up or down your commitment for what works for you. 5. I'm very familiar with many different programs all over the spectrum. I have a lot to say about Bloomtech as well for example and a lot of data points on them similar to Codesmith. You are just seeing Codesmith stuff because there are so many Codesmith people who hang around this subreddit and talk about it and I add my 2 cents.