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CIRR results for 2021 up!

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I'm going to write up my free flow thoughts as I'm reading through it. I'll focus on Codesmith because it's the most talked about bootcamp on here and I don't have much time. 5 minute recap!! 1. CIRR is basically dead. Only four schools in the USA reported. Only one school in SF/NY reported. 2. Codesmith's numbers don't including an auditing report. I'm assuming they were audited. 3. Codesmith LA: 1. Similar graduation and placement rates 2. Solid increase in median compensation 3. They changed the buckets but it looks like a $10K increase in salaries across the board. 4. Increased number of graduates by 40 is almost 40% and maintained strong numbers, which is a good sign 4. Codesmith NY: 1. Similar number of graduates from previous report, no growth 2. Large jump in percentage placed within 6 months from 80 to 90% 3. Kept same salary buckets, easier to compare trends 4. While the breakdown between 130-140K and 140+ changed, the total people in those two buckets combined stayed the same, but the number of really high earners went down. 5. Otherwise increase in lower paying Fellows 6. Fairly large increase in number of people being hired back by the school. 5% of of people in this report WORK AT CODESMITH. In LA a much smaller amount of people were hired by Codesmith itself and the program is larger πŸ€”. 7. I suspect the AVERAGE salary might have dropped in NY or been flat (we don't know what it was before) Overall thoughts: 1. Great progress in LA overall - they are doing something right there in the data! 2. It's strange that NY was basically flat, while LA say great increases in compensation across the board as well as they grew a ton and improved results. 3. Would love to hear from Codesmith students/alum the difference between LA and NY during COVID when everything is remote. 4. It's possible the LA results rising to the same as NY are people working remotely in big cities. 5. Does anyone know where all the remote cohorts are??? Is the data included in these or not? I can't imagine Codesmith only graduating 230 students in H1 2021. 6. I'll drop this in there, but it looks like the fake-it-til-you make it work experience is still working as the results are holding strong and improving. I always keep a close eye on this because when companies do catch on, they have gotten quite angry, but it's clearly not slowing down their results. 🚨 CIRR is on Life Support 🚨: 1. This is the most important finding which is that CIRR is not in great shape. ONLY THE BOARD MEMBERS OF CIRR COMPLETED THE REPORTS + CODESMITH. 2. HackReactor and Bloomtech already publish their own audited outcomes using their own criteria on their own cadence, so CIRR's format of reporting is not really relevant .