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I’m Michael. I was a principal engineer at Facebook from 2009 to 2017, where I was the top code contributor of all time and also conducted hundreds of interviews. I recently co-founded Formation.dev, an engineering fellowship that trains and refers engineers directly into big tech. Ask me Anything!

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u/Sweet_Item_Drops wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Really, really appreciate the time you took to write this out. Thank you. Lots for me to sit and chew on. One more question, but not urgent: >Negotiation is a big one that differs based on background. We want to make sure you get compensated fairly to help with some of the s

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Nope, the ISA is just a convenient way for people to pay. We often advise people to turn down offers for all kinds of reasons. Our ISA is only based on your base salary and people will very often accept offers with lower base salaries but with way more equity and higher total compensation. Sometimes people just accept straight up lower offers because of company fit (i.e. someone's dream company, and another company tries to compete and outbid them with a larger offer). I've seen time and time again (even to myself at Facebook) where while these FAANG-level offers sound absurdly high in the moment, your long term income will be dictated by choosing the right company that you succeed at. It's actually a challenge because we work with a decent amount of bootcamp grads later in their careers who had ISAs with like crazy fine print (5 year paybacks, onerous requirements for job guarantees, etc...) who are skeptical of them, but as you work with us giving your 100%, our ISA literally starts the day you get a new job and we work with you with our 100% until then so it's the ideal use case of an ISA, in my opinion. In the future maybe we'll have more options. Our full time team is driven by the outcomes and impact on people's lives more than trying to get every last dollar out of people. Win-wins will always make the company more successful long term.