1. A bootcamp could possibly help. It's unlikely, but of all people I wouldn't entirely rule it out.
2. A CS degree also unlikely will help. The only thing I would consider is part time over many years to get the piece of paper while pursuing internal conversion.
I agree with the others who recommend trying to transition formally at your company.
Talk to the company about it more explicitly and see if they can support you in any way.
The mentorship thing you mention is also fantastic, like you seem ok the dream path here to me.
I still find in really sketchy that Course Report has so many "best bootcamp" awards. Like dozens of bootcamps are the "best bootcamp" one of them didn't even have a review on their site in 2024, but it's the "best bootcamp".
Sigh, this industry.
It's a person who is trying to get referrals. As a mod we say a lot of these posts for Triple Ten and posting about referral links and discounts isn't allowed. We saw a lot of these posts where current students of programs like Triple Ten post very similar generic positive posts with similar tones and structure, and then they offer referrals (some very explicitly and some indirectly).
Without my moderator hat on, I want to know why there were dozens of people trying to post DURING The program how great it was with their referral codes and no one posting AFTER the program talking about how they got a job.
No sorry, like other ones. Like [https://www.amazon.com/AZLA-SednaEarfit-Standard-Pairs-Size/dp/B0B48PV2ZL/](https://www.amazon.com/AZLA-SednaEarfit-Standard-Pairs-Size/dp/B0B48PV2ZL/)
Or SpinFit is another brand, Final Audio E, etc...
I personally have a ton of IEMs and so I already have a bunch to try out.
I would try the ones it comes with first, you can try EQ'ing the bass up a bit, but with a good "seal" on any IEM you get the best possible 'rumble' effect of bass so just flagging this too.
This applies to ANY IEM you get.
Oh I should also add that they look and feel nice but they aren't super flashy fancy designed and some people want that too haha.
If you want to get the best bass with them I would also recommend trying different tips for what has the best seal for your ears.
I have most of them in this range and beyond (10+ pairs) and Technics AZ100 is the best well rounded. It's not just average at everything, it's very good at everything: ANC, battery live, bass, connectivity.
It's one flaw is no Qualcomm APT support (but it has LDAC).
Well at least no one in the past month can accuse me of being an unfair moderator because I haven't been. My personal opinion trying to look at it objectively is not much has changes.
When I was a moderator numerous posts were caught in the Reddit AI filters from all kinds of people who come out of no where trying to spread a strong opinion. If you don't have the reputation and credibility in the sub the rules are that you can't post or get distribution for those opinions no matter how loudly you yell about those opinions.
Yeah it's definitely suspicious. I'm not a moderator anymore so I can't really dig into it more.
I can't comment specifically about other programs because of legal advice, but I can say that I stand by my record of fairness as a moderator to try to uphold the integrity of the sub and having the same values now with less ability to impact the discussion.
Wow that's quite a story, that I had to fact check the source, author and court records.
It seems this was reported by only one source and they don't link to specific court records or sources.
I'm very curious to know what's going on here because this sounds almost unbelievable.
FE Week is a legit publication and the author reports on the field with an article a day so it seems legit but I have to check everything nowadays and the article doesn't list any specific sources to double check what happened
Do you have links to the court records, I want to read more!
u/peppiminti just updating that we reduced the use of the word Fellowship on the website in our most recent copy path.
I also found this Oxford Visiting Fellowship that's an example of a paid Fellowship: [https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/visitor-programme/](https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/visitor-programme/)
It costs 19,000 pounds = $25K USD to attend for 2 years.
I worked directly with Zuck when he wrote code for the 'last time' at Meta, back in 2009-2010ish. In fact I made a bet to get him out of coding-retirement to commit code for the first time in a while :D. (He has written code since for personal projects though)
I don't think he was ever a brilliant standalone programmer but he's very smart and has natural programming and problem solving abilities, but I always felt his programming was done in service of a goal or product and not programming for programming's sake.
He was heavily heavily involved in product discussions and technical tradeoffs at a high level.
I've been relatively quiet for the past month but there have been continued departures at bootcamps, continued observed admissions and enrollment issues.
The narrative around AI simultaneously destroying education and bootcamps (by making better quality learning available for cheap) AND destroying entry level SWE jobs seems like it will be the final death blow to many bootcamps that have made it this far.
It doesn't really matter if these are exaggerated or overblown by the media, because it's clear people are struggling to get jobs across the board and it's extremely obvious why fewer people than ever would sign up for a bootcamp.
When the alumni and former staff of a bootcamp publicly tell you not to go to the bootcamp, it's a very simple and obvious sign.
I feel really sad for bootcamps, but I can't let my emotions get in the way of fair and rational analysis because feeling sad f…
Are you saying that my analysis is false, or that the 87% is false?
My analysis was explaining that it's not what it seems and the discrepancy between that and reality.
But I wanted to clarify if you are saying that my analysis is wrong or if you are saying that you don't think the 87% of all placements happening 6 months post graduation versus the other placements that take longer than 6 months, is even accurate.
You should learn to ask AI chat for help and learn how to converse with it effectively. This is rapidly becoming a necessary skill for engineers.
Community = emotional support. AI = technical support.
It will be hard at first but power through and you will develop an advantage over others who can't figure it out.
You can be employed one day and your manager tells you you are performing ok and the next day you are laid off. Just locked out and thrown away and have to then somehow bounce back in a rough market with the stigma of a performance based lay off.
I've seen it extremely emotionally stressful.
On the other hand, when you have a great job you love and are crushing it's the highest high.
It's kind of why this sub was so positive 3 years ago and everyone was so happy and supportive and now it's full of people who have seen the opposite side.
Having a stressful job is less stressful than not having a job.
I’ve been thinking about why some people (neurodivergent or not) seem particularly effective at cutting through appearances and emotional reactions to things and focusing on what’s "real". These people often have a knack for separating emotion or social expectations from facts and outcomes, which allows them to respond more directly to challenges rather than getting lost in how things feel or being impacted by the emotional state of others around you (like your team). When that clarity and focus are paired with ambition and creativity, it can be a powerful advantage in building products or companies.
As a founder myself, I know how emotionally intense the journey can be. Even people like Zuckerberg or Bezos (not implying anything about their neurotypical states, and disclosure: I'm friends with Zuck) have had their ups and downs. The ability to stay grounded and not get swept away by th…
The example was speaking about a different program.
Launch School's latest cohort outcomes are here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/launchschool/comments/1n8s8mr/cohort\_2408\_salary\_outcomes\_6month/](https://www.reddit.com/r/launchschool/comments/1n8s8mr/cohort_2408_salary_outcomes_6month/)
My comments thought apply to all bootcamps.
Even the best bootcamps with tanking placements rates are having placements for the right subset of people who join.
So if the program is transparent and clear about how things are in 2025 (not 2023 grads or 2024 grads) then I would spend some time seeing if it's good for you or not and then decide.
But the market in 2025 is not good for bootcamp grads and your odds of a good outcome are low in my opinion so you have to be very self reflective about if it's a good fit for you.
For example, someone on Reddit commented recently that they went to a top bootcamp routing a high placement rate and graduated early 2025 very few people are placed yet and going to the bootcamp convinced them to not be a SWE and they thought it was worth the fee to learn this - which not everyone would agree with and is a personal situation unique for this person.
I stand by my recent "red flags" post and "who…
I would recommend trying to find a pathway to more technical roles within your company over a longer period of time. For example, if they will support you doing courses and you have a pathway to interview for incrementally more technical roles and over 3 to 5 years complete the transition.
In the current job market, if you have a good job, keep it and plan for a slower transition, in my opinion.
One really important thing to keep in my with the rapid career change is that even if you do a bootcamp and get a job within 12 months of graduating (which if it's part time, might be about 2 years from now) then you have to keep the job... and bootcamp grads have been having a hard time in general (not EVERYONE but in general). No matter how good you are, you are near the top of the list for layoffs when a manager has to choose someone on the team to let go.
That's not meant to scare you, but…
I think the mixup with the person might be Chat apps VS LLMs. LLMs don't teach by nature but they can be used to power teaching apps. Chat apps aren't built to teach right now but if you use them with high skill you can learn a lot nonetheless.
Both will impact education.
I think this comes to some of the tension in the bootcamp industry right now.
Three approaches I'm seeing:
1. Some places are pausing because they just don't think they can do anything about the market. They think their product is relevant in a good market but not in this market.
2. Some places are pivoting and changing. Offering B2B programs or rebranding or new formats.
3. Some places are doing what they always did and trying to proceed as if it still works right now and the market isn't a problem.
There are examples in all of these cases of failures: pauses never resuming, pivots not working out, ignoring the market and losing product market fit.
I have seen only one program come back: Gauntlet from BloomTech. They did #2 by pivoting to a 'Top 2% IQ program to isolate the best of the best and teach them AI'. And it's working so far in that they have rebounded from almost zero.…
I commented above but the existential crisis is that bootcamps worked ok when people were paying for the outcome and getting it. It's clear from most of the websites that shove their outcomes into the hero banners that the outcomes are what you are paying for.
If the derivative/delta of the outcomes is in really bad shape and people don't want to pay for the outcome, then the only other option for survival is if they pay for the education itself.... and when you are taught by recent graduates and the materials suck, then people won't pay for that either. Even if you had the #1 quality instructors and materials, it's a hard sell that it's worth $20K for 12 weeks or w/e...
It's really a hard time for all bootcamps if the outcomes are tanking/have tanked and there's no fix or solution that I can think of to the market problem.
I don't agree or disagree, but with that argument you can say 'If a calculator can crunch numbers better than you, you are not as good at math as you think' and it's not really a good argument.
A challenge I've had over the years is the question of if bootcamps are selling the outcome or the process.
In reality, you are paying for the process (a rapid crash course in engineering) and trying to get the best outcome you can (or no outcome at all).
But most bootcamps sell their outcomes (like the hero banners of many bootcamps have their salary stats or outcomes statement in them!).
If students pay for the process but bootcamps think they are selling the outcomes, there is a fundamental mismatch or disconnect in the market.
I think "RIP Coding Bootcamps" is actually RIP "bootcamps selling you outcomes". Bootcamps with outcomes numbers in their hero banners are the ones that are "RIP".
The existential challenge now is that If bootcamps sell you the process, then they are selling: crappy materials often copied/derived or licensed, teachers who recently graduated the program the…
I would recommend you thoroughly do your research (across multiple sources) and watch out for confirmation bias. That's not to say whether a bootcamp is or is not a good idea for any specific individual person, but that confirmation bias has historically been in play in this subreddit for many years - both for and against bootcamps.
For example, read the full original paper linked here that was updated yesterday with the latest raw data of job postings: [https://www.reddit.com/r/InformatikKarriere/comments/1nj4r8r/harvardstudie\_es\_ist\_vorbei\_f%C3%BCr\_berufseinsteiger/?tl=en](https://www.reddit.com/r/InformatikKarriere/comments/1nj4r8r/harvardstudie_es_ist_vorbei_f%C3%BCr_berufseinsteiger/?tl=en)
/u/t[tpfld](https://www.reddit.com/user/tpfld/) I watched it and this is my personal summary:
1. Austen demonstrates he's learned a lot from the industry and past attempts he's made about what works and doesn't work and was transparent about it
2. Transparent about the business model for Gauntlet, how it works and why it works right now.
3. Was missing discussion about choosing the top 2% IQ people to join, I think that's a relevant part of how it works that could be discussed more. If you tell a random 100 IQ person "check out Gauntlet it's legit", that wouldn't really be good advice so I think this part is important to talk about.
4. Transparent about the Guantlet being a recruiting and filtering process for companies.
5. One small detail was that he said if someone is not hired by a partner that Gauntlet will hire them and I'm assuming that's how the 200K gauranteed job is mainta…
I can't comment right now about bootcamps because of ongoing legal circumstances, but zooming out, my opinion is that it's fair to consider both sides: the positive impact a bootcamp has had while holding them accountable for marketing and their websites in a tougher market.
Real life isn't A or B, it is the shades of grey in between.
This sounds like you are subconsciously memorizing. My advice is to do easier problems until they feel as easy as writing your name and then move on to harder problems.
I would caution against accidentally memorizing stuff without understanding bit by bit what's happening. Give yourself space and time to learn and start easy.
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I can't comment on the matters at hand because of legal considerations, but I'm clarify that I'm not employed by Reddit and have no employment/work/contractor relationship with the company.
I can't comment for legal reasons but refer to the sticky post about moderation and how my past role as moderator was about supporting authentic and quality discourse.
Hi, I can’t comment on that directly because of pending legal matters. I’d just refer you to what I’ve already posted [https://www.reddit.com/user/michaelnovati/submitted/](https://www.reddit.com/user/michaelnovati/submitted/) about other programs and also marketing and expectations concerns for context.
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I can’t comment on any of this at the moment due to legal reasons. I’ve been advised not to make any further statements about Codesmith or its programs while this matter is active.
Anyone who wants context can look at what I’ve previously said directly and review the public sources I cited at the time. I can’t add or restate anything beyond that right now.
I'm not allowed to share primary new documentary because of ongoing legal matters, but what was reported publicly on Reddit about these matters can be found here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1e7n7y1/breaking\_news\_course\_report\_bootcamp\_review/](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1e7n7y1/breaking_news_course_report_bootcamp_review/)
I'm not allowed to comment because of ongoing legal situations but can refer you to Primeagen's video this morning discussing that topic and the language he used.
By context, I meant the context of what the Future Code program is, the requirements to get in, and the video's representation as me 'watching kids like a hawk' when these are full blown adult residents of New York City who make under $50,000.
I’ve always tried to be reasonable. I’m not perfect, but I dig and how I’ve uncovered real issues in the past. I’ve received thousands of dollars of legitimate security bounties for finding vulnerabilities, I’ve also helped expose and shut down coordinated Reddit account networks that were misleading people, I helped remove a drop shipper from Amazon taking advantage of people during COVID.
That said, I take integrity and harassment very seriously. It’s absolutely possible to investigate deeply while still being respectful and professional.
If you reach out to someone and they don’t reply, that’s the end of it. No follow-ups. And while looking at someone’s public LinkedIn, GitHub, or Googling their name can be part of basic due diligence, that’s not harassment. The line is clear: no repeated contact, no personal attacks, and no crossing into anyone’s private life.
Even when I’ve been…
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