u/michaelnovati replied ·
Can I ask why you enrolled in the first place? What made you think you would get a job?
General Assembly: Do Not Waste Your Money
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u/koaltree wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I had been resisting it for a long time, but a friend of mine had gone to another bootcamp and had gotten a coding job. But I couldn't go to the one he did as it was only in-person.
u/michaelnovati replied ·
Yeah the market is tough. It sounds like it wasn't an impulsive desition though at least.
While this doesn't at all justify the cost or the quality issues, I would see it as a stepping stone to something.
I recommend people go back to their old jobs OR get any job possible at a good tech company.
See the bootcamp as potentially useful coding practice in a long term journey.
That doesn't justify $16K for sub-par experience but just my advice.
u/koaltree wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Yeah. I mean, I could understand it if I was just unlucky and others in my class got coding jobs. But not a single one has. Despite all their assurances prior to my payment.
u/michaelnovati replied ·
Ah ok so your opinion is they did mislead you when you signed, which wouldn't be cool yeah.
I mean GA has been pivoting to corporate training along with Galvanize.
I wouldn't be surprised if whatever remaining coding bootcamps exist close down.
u/koaltree wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Yeah. I was told by their team that they had all sorts of "contacts" in the industry, and that their placement team would always help. Totally false. It was all a lie.
u/michaelnovati replied ·
Well probably true that they had those contacts but not true that they were hiring and they knew that in 2025.
u/koaltree wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Their "contacts" turned out to be: "search GA alumni on linkedin and message them." They either didn't reply or couldn't help.
u/michaelnovati replied ·
yeah, I really hate when boot camps say that they're alumni are "hiring partners".
like tech elevator had like dozens of legitimate real signed partnerships and when you read the marketing you can't tell the difference between that and a boot camp that has dozens of alumnus that they're calling hiring partners.
u/ConsistentPeach927 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Out of all the bootcamps you picked the one with no money back guarantee lol. Why???
u/michaelnovati replied ·
Money back guarantees aren't truly real.
They attract people who are less serious and feel like they have nothing to lose. Then they don't place. Then the program goes bankrupt.
It's a bad spiral but it's why all of the income share agreement providers have pulled out and disappeared.
A person who pays upfront is committed and more likely to succeed.
So the ones in operation have incredibly complex fine print that I haven't anecdotally heard from anyone who ACTUALLY got their money back.
For example at Triple Ten, most people who don't place, don't actually finish, and they blame themselves for not finishing. No money back guarantee in that case!
u/ConsistentPeach927 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
They absolutely are real my wife went to triple 10 and got her money back. They have a certain requirements like keeping track of how many jobs your applying for etc. pleas stop spreading misinformation.
u/michaelnovati replied ·
I didn't say Triple Ten's money back guarantee wasn't real. I said most people who don't place don't finish the program.
Is that not true since you also know a lot about them?
u/ConsistentPeach927 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Well I paid for her schooling and we went over the contract with her manager. I don't know a lot about them other than she was not able to get a job and the process for getting our money back was fairly simple. You just need to fill out a link and they got back to us less than a
u/michaelnovati replied ·
I agree that the terms are completely transparent and very clear on this.
The problem I have is that people sign up thinking they have nothing to lose because of the "money back guarantee" when the vast majority of people who do not finish or place, don't get their money back because they don't finish.
Let's say 100 people start. 20 finish. 16 of those people get jobs and 4 get their money back. 80 people do not get their money back because they didn't finish within 1.5X of the time frame or whatever the terms say.