u/svix_ftw wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
The secret is that anyone who gets a job after a bootcamp was good enough to get a job without the bootcamp.
I've hired and been hired many times in this industry. Bootcamp on your resume contributes literally nothing to getting a job.
If anything HMs are more likely to trash
u/michaelnovatireplied·
This is true to some effect. It was always smoke and mirrors that 12 weeks could teach you any actual skills.
The bootcamps with the best outcomes selected for the best people with low self-confidence in their abilities, gave them self-confidence, and then they got placed.
But during the best times, bootcamps grads were the bottom of the barrel at big tech, a last resort .
Not that the bar is so much higher that's not enough anymore.
The bootcamps that figured this out have pivoted away from SWE bootcamps.
u/GRaf_JJlion wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I’m curious: do you think it would be a more useful process if I first learned the basics and fundamentals on YouTube, AI, and other free courses BEFORE starting a boot camp?
That way I would already be familiar, I wouldn’t get stuck in the early stages, and the “promise” of la
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Yes, most people think learning programming is a straight line but it's more like a tornado.
You are constantly spinning in circles and revisiting things you thought you know and trying to steer the tornado in a productive direction but keep getting pulled all over the place in rabbit holes.
So short answer yes.
But the bootcamp also isn't the end of the journey, it's a tiny step along the way. And in this market many are doubting the cost and quality tradeoff but that's a decision for you to make, not expecting a job and expecting many more steps.