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Is Tripple Ten or any coding boot camps still worth it at 25?

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u/michaelnovati replied ·
I'm poking around the job guarantee and haven't found someone yet that was actually refunded and a number of people who thought they would be refunded and weren't. So I would ask a lot of questions. Zooming out, bootcamps are not a good idea right now for most people. If you are a genius and you have lots of professional experience and want to pivot to SWE and have been programming for a year already then you want to consider it and it's still unlikely to be a good idea. If thst's not you, find another job to go for.

u/kalki_2898_ wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

What jobs or courses or certs are in demand in tech tho especially for idiots without any degree?

u/michaelnovati replied ·
If you don't have any professional experience and you don't have a natural affinity to programming and you don't consider yourself a little smarter than average then maybe trades. In San Francisco, you can pass a test for Backflow Water Annual Testing and then you can go out and charge $250 to test peoples backflow water systems for 15 minutes. Police officers in San Francisco make about $250K on average. People don't talk about these jobs because if more people did them they wouldn't pay so much so they aren't plastered all over Reddit. If I didn't have a degree I would be looking for these loopholes that no one is talking about.

u/snaakebiites wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

i’m 33 and enrolled in tripleten. i’m only like 10-15% through the program but it’s better than i expected for an online program

u/michaelnovati replied ·
We need to hear from people who finish TripleTen in a reasonable amount of time and are done, I literally have not bumped into a single person in this sub who told me they finished the SWE track at TripleTen and got a job after. Many examples on their website, including the main person on the homepage, did Triple Ten a long time ago when it was called Practicum. I'm definitely sure some people do it and get jobs because their reports say so, but I want to hear more from them after being inundated with people "one or two sprints in" that post here with referral codes. I similarly have not bumped into a single person who got their money back for the job guarantee, and bumped into some that thought they would get it but didn't. Like something is not adding up between what I'm seeing and the marketing, Self paced remote programs like Springboard have like a 10% on time completion rate in California so I would strongly guess Triple Ten has a similar rate or even if it's a lot better, it's not like 90%. If it was, Springboard should shut down. So it makes a lot of sense that we would see a lot of people starting Triple Ten and not actually finishing, which is why I want to hear more about thism