Nothing in life is free. If you only pay if you get a SWE job just think about all of the other people who didn't get SWE jobs and didn't pay.
When the best bootcamps have tanking placement rates, who is paying for all of those non-placement's training?
Two answers:
1. No one - and the schools are shutting down left right and center, laying people off, and cutting back
2. The people who are placed are effectively paying for the people who aren't.
So if you are an amazing student and very likely to place you should NOT go somewhere with a job guarantee because you are likely paying for all the people who didn't get them in addition to yourself.
u/crimsonslaya wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Places like General Assembly are growing and thriving thanks to their corporate partnerships. Tech Companies use GA all the time to upskill their employees for new roles.
u/michaelnovatireplied·
What data is telling you General Assembly is thriving right now?
General Assembly is owned by an international staffing agency Adecco and I pulled their 2024 Annual Report that came out a month ago.
1. General Assembly revenue was down in 2024 and called out explicitly
2. They decided to pivot it to B2B upskilling so it's too soon to know anything on how it's doing as a business model
3. The pivot helped them save millions of dollars of expenses and reading between the lines it sounds like they effectively shut it down and rebooted it as a brand in a new part of the stack.
The B2B thing may work but it's not really General Assembly of old happening to do well with b2b all of a sudden. The bootcamp failed and the parent company changed strategy to try to save money and enter a different market.
u/crimsonslaya wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Myself and several others I know went through GA and ended up in great spots. I was able to pivot from software support to product analytics with a 30k increase. This may seem anecdotal but I'm far from an outlier.
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Your most recent post says you are an undergrad data science major.
Define what you mean by "ending up in a great spot" and which program did you do and how much did you pay?
And you did it when? General Assembly completely pivoted so I would expect the experience now to be different from last year.
If you did it and they are marketing to you about B2B and making it sound like it's doing awesome you might be falling for marketing - it's a major pivot they are trying to boot up.
u/crimsonslaya wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I didn't pay a dime for it. The company I work for did. Worked amazingly for me and many others. This sub is an echo chamber filled with doom and gloom weirdos.
Bootcamps were apparently incredible pre 2022 but the narrative has done a 180 on this sub. Strange since the quality
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Try to zoom out for a sec. You are a current data science major with one internship yet you are also employed full time and your company paid you to do GA and what was the outcome?
You got promoted? You got a new job?
You can get upset but please use your words or explain the facts because people reading don't see how the dots connect. You seem to feel very strongly the dots to connect so use your words to explain how they do.
This sub is full of "trust me" posts from 2022 and tons of people for so fucked over it killed the bootcamp industry.
My job is to make sure people explain how and not just what and I can't speak for everyone else but that's the most gosh darn healthy attitude I can think of.