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Recent Coding Bootcamp Graduate Seeking First Job – Any Referrals Would Be Greatly Appreciated!

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u/michaelnovati replied · · edited
Thousands of others are in your shoes too. You recently graduated so were you aware of the market when you signed up for the program. Why did you do it?

u/Good_Possible_3493 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Great way to demotivate someone, he already knows that there are many people in his shoes, but that doesnt mean that he should give up and regret his choice, i have looked into your profile, and i dont care whether ur ex meta or whatever, but this comment of yours tells a lot abt

u/michaelnovati replied ·
I have had to amp up my rhetoric because bootcamps have been dying over the past year and some are desperately trying to cling on with marketing that misleads people. I'm a "tell it how it is" person but I'm also a ruthlessly supportive person if you want to hustle hard with what reality has thrown at you. I don't pat people on the back and support their delusion so they feel better. If you accept reality and want my personal, thoughtful advice on what to do, my doors are open with tons of support.

u/Good_Possible_3493 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Telling it like it is doesn’t mean being insensitive. You can be supportive without making someone feel worse. And what type of reality do you want people to accept? That there’s no chance of being hired even if you work hard? Fyi, I’m in my last semester of my Bachelor’s in Com

u/michaelnovati replied ·
1. If you have internships you are qualified. Look at University of Waterloo where they do six 4-month long fully paid internships over the course of their 5-year degree. 2. Supply and demand. If you're going to be paid millions of dollars a year like you claim, then you have to be delivering more than that in value to some company or to the world, or it's not a sustainable job. So let's say that your claim is correct that anyone who works hard enough can make millions of dollars a year in this field is true. then it would mean that there is a guaranteed path where people who work hard can produce that much value. so let's say that you're making $5 million a year. which is $96,000 a week. which is $13,000 a day assuming you work 7 days a week, which I'm assuming you would given your argument. I can imagine a world where put someone can produce $13,000 a day but if that was guaranteed from strictly hard work then there's likely a massive hiring demand and lack of supply. if I'm a company and I'm paying someone $13,000 a day for purely hard work then I need to find a way to reduce that. maybe I invest a million dollars into building software that makes this job unnecessary. maybe I come up with a training program so that there can be more of these people and they can reduce the job to $10,000 a day and it was worth it because of all the savings. but like there are no jobs that pay $5 million a year strictly with hard work and nothing else because that's not how an efficient market would work.

u/Great-Permit-6972 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

You’re way too involved in this subreddit. You think you’re being useful but it comes as you just looking for an opportunity to put people down. There are so many other, better, ways to say what you said. Why do you do it the way you did? Were you aware that you’re just taking op

u/michaelnovati replied ·
I'll edit that last part of the sentence. I meant that is a separate thought like why did you do a bootcamp in this market? and not disagreeing that it's not a supportive message. but I want to clarify the that question was meant as a factual question or the sarcastic one.

u/Good_Possible_3493 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I am currently doing an internship in an mnc as an ai/ml intern, and guess what, i am not in a cs target school, plus i have got an admit for masters in cs at usc for fall 2025. Btw, Talking with you is like playing chess with a pigeon,no matter how good u play, it is going to

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Agreed we should end it, good luck on your path anyways, I think doing a masters at USC is a great idea and fully support that