u/lyrics27 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
What bootcamp is this?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
I don't know the context of this, but I advise to read through a lot of content on here - there is no special secret bootcamp that no one knows about that gets people jobs right now.
It's not that no one at all gets jobs at bootcamps, the problem is that in most cases, most do not get jobs, and there are many people who had ZERO chance of it getting them a job that fall for the first Reddit comment that sounds like it's giving them THE path to the job.
u/lyrics27 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Currently going to college. Been thinking about going into a boot camp. I am aware that at the end of the day it is my hard work in and out of the bootcamp that is going to determine my success. I am just trying to figure out which is the bootcamp that is spoken well for in and o
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Have you had internships? And if you haven't you should be focusing all of your energy on getting one. Doing a volunteer or free internship will be more useful than paying $20K to go to a bootcamp.
Work for free sounds stupid? Well how about paying $20K instead and getting less value out of the experience - like a 3 week long group project as your highlight!
u/k_dilluh wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
The last cohort is going through for actual coding, as no matter what, those jobs are getting scarce. They are switching to AI related learnings.
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Do you mind DM me the program confidentially? I'm a mod and I also collect news about the industry and programs converting to AI is one of the trends (App Academy, BloomTech full changed, and others adding AI).
Some are last ditch effort to not shut down. Others are trying to hit a new market.
u/lucky_719 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I wish people shared more stories that were honest. I completed a scrum master certificate course back in 2022 when the market was good. The instructor shared my story like his course was what landed me the six figure job a month after taking graduating.
I was already a shoe in
u/michaelnovatireplied·
I wrote extensively about the bootcamp eras and such but this is somewhat common with successful people.
Many people who the bootcamp works for didn't need the bootcamp. Yet the bootcamp uses their stories to market to everyone, making it feel like "you could be next".
Based on ranking enrollments everywhere, I don't think people are falling for that.
But at the same time, if you are one of these people and don't realize it, you might not get the push you need.
u/Warm-Bid-9307 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
i haven't even started learning and now i have a question: what should a complete newbie do to start coding? because bootcamp feels like the most obvious thing.
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Curious why you think bootcamps feel like the obvious thing?
Like if you wanted to be a doctor or a lawyer what would you do to transition? And I would think of SWE the same way.
You do have to learn some things on your own, analogous to studying for the MCAT or LSAT, but you want to learn some basics to take the next step.
Spending $20K for that is irrational. It was rational when people got jobs but it's irrational to spend that much on a Udacity-like course for 10X the cost.