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At what hiring rate is a Bootcamp no longer worth it?

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u/michaelnovati replied ·
Every bootcamp uses a different way to measure placement and even CIRR is falling apart. But more importantly, placements rates have always been a marketing tool. When it's high, yell it loud all over the place and publish it as early as possible. When it's bad, downplay, change the goal posts, delay. Why haven't we seen audited 2022 results from CIRR and where are 2023 outcomes... they have never been delayed this long before as we now enter April. The truth is that someone going into a bootcamp has a probability of success before even starting and it depends on YOU not the bootcamp. Bootcamps with high placement rates had the highest entrance bars and that was the secret. Now they take people the day before and haven't properly vetted the risk. More people leaving from top programs unable to use GitHub properly. But if you will get a job or not should be based on you and your unique background and not judged by a placement rate (and that was true 3 years ago as well)

u/Expensive_Tower2229 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

What factors do you think are relevant at an individual level?

u/michaelnovati replied ·
What people said summarized to: \- grit and outwork 80% of your cohort \- past STEM degree \- past professional work experience, ideal related so soft skills transfer \- natural affinity for programming and abstract thinking \- your network, from school or otherwise \- your location - big tech city \- how much you are willing to lie on your resume at the end