I would +1 Ada. They had some struggles after COVID and had to reset a bit, but they took a thoughtful pause, regrouped and are still around. Their model is focused on a bootcamp + REAL PAID internship at a real, solid company after (not sure if it's changed, but in the past it was expected everyone has an internship).
Nothing is perfect and there are many ways Ada can improve, but this model is really the best thing you can have in a transition. If it doesn't work out for you, you still have this internship under your belt and gave it a real shot and it's a better sign that SWE isn't for you, more so than you just couldn't get a foot in the door.
I would just double check they still expect everyone to have internships because that is the key thing that makes it special.
u/cmredd wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Michael can I ask what your thoughts on launchschool are?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
I'm a big fan of Launch School overall for these reasons:
1. They are open and honest about the market and how it impacts them.
2. Their team has been extremely creative with the 2023 entry level downturn, by adding supported work on Firefox (Open Source) and trying to setup internships for people. You can see in their 2023 six month placement rates that this stuff is working to combat the market prolbems
3. BUT a word of caution because they are not immune from the market and their placements rates have still fallen from 2022 so it's not the golden ticket.
4. Launch School has a slow ramp with Core (which is paid and not free) so by the time you commit to the Capstone bootcamp portion you know (and they know) who is most likely to succeed in the more expensive Captone.
5. Their projects are the most legit projects I've looked at coming out of a bootcamp. I've looked at the open source code for a lot of projects from a lot of places.
Funny, a lot of people don't actually look at the code. An instructor formerly at one of the bootcamps (not Launch School) allegedly told some students the code doesn't matter as long as it 'looks like' a 'mid level or senior' project, that's all that mattered.
To some degree I see an emphasis on "marketing" from all bootcamp projects, but Launch School's projects code is the most legit I've seen compared to other programs. Not perfect and not 'mid level or senior' work, but they actually try to make the project good and then explain it, instead of first coming up with the marketing and then rushing through the project to make it the minimum viable thing to trick recruiters.
u/cmredd wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Interesting. I’d imagine it’s probably only worthwhile if you go on to pay for the capstone, in that case?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Correct, that's all talking about Capstone, but part of the reason their outcomes are so high is there is no guarantee you can just do Capstone - you have to be a good fit and demonstrate in Core that you will likely succeed