[6 Month Update] Buddy of mine COMPLETELY lied in his job search and he ended up getting tons of inter views and almost tripling his salary ($85k -> $230k)
People will get by doing this as an edge case, and it's not for the faint of heart. I know people who have lied and then not made it past 6 months.
Part of doing well on the job is skills + experience, and some is raw capacities. Some people have zero skills and experience and have all the capacities you need to do well in a job and feel justified in "the ends justify the means".
I personally don't support this approach because I've seen it catch up to people not six months, but 2-3 years down the line.
Specifically at stronger companies.
There are Stanford CS grads with 4 internships on their resume with the same capabilities as the liar AND more experience. Those people will progress faster in their careers and the liar might be "just getting by". Two or three years later the liar is barely getting by and management notices they aren't on track for promotion yet.
When layoffs come around, who do you think is higher priority to remove?
Sure - this isn't everyone, but people who get hit for their lies 2-3 years are really lost. They never really performed super well to know what that means or feels like, they are burned out from putting in extra hours, they want to move to a similar job but the middling performance reviews and layoff don't give them the confidence or ability to make that jump. It's stressful from what I've seen.
This is all focused on the individual, but too many people lying like this is what causes entry level requirements to be "4 years of experience".
Anyways, you do you, I have mixed views on this and personally believe lies catch up to you.
u/frosticedtea wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Not true at all honestly. I know someone who did something similar and I swear the HR screening shit is a complete failure. This person is over employed making close to a million a year and has never been caught or questioned even when the background checks showing 5+ companies.
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Yeah things can come back as "not able to confirm" - for example if a bogus phone number is given and the person declines to provide evidence of a job, and HR doesn't care. Background checks aren't pass/fail.
u/beastkara wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
2-3 years? By that point they have 2-3 years of his experience. So in other words, it's very good for them compared to where they started. If they can't get where they need to be at the good job in that time frame to find another decent job, they aren't going to make it anyway.
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Well my point is the people I've worked with in that bucket, have a hard time knowing what to do for their next job. They might actually want to downlevel to a lower level where they will get support on the job to fill in their gaps.
The group I've people I've talked to about this are people who have lied to enter at a mid-level role when they have no experience, so it might be a bias sample.
Those people have a lot of gaps and now that they have real experience, going for an entry level role requiring "4 years of experience" might be best as the second jump.