Please update how many people drop out every week! That's one of the things TripleTen isn't clear about.
u/Mirabels-Wish wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
>I’m not 100% sure if they announce drop outs though?
I don't think any learning institution - college or bootcamp - does this. I'm not saying it's not an important metric, but you have to put in effort to track that.
Also, the reason matters. There's a difference between someo
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Yeah the reason I ask is because many online self paced programs like Springboard and BloomTech much lower completion rates than fixed length programs.
TripleTen touts a very strong placement rate within 6 months upon graduation, but gives ZERO insight into how many people graduate.
I've talked to people that work there and it's very relevant. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's just something they care a lot about - people not dropping out, but I have no numbers on it.
u/mkvlsc wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
We do see the graduates from the program, but they’re all mixed (different courses). I do notice that the graduates are fewer than the students coming in per cohort, but that may be because it is self paced, so it naturally wont exactly match.
The fallout rate may differ per co
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Yeah totally agree and not a criticism. just that when you go to their website, there's very prominent large numbers showing an 87% placement rate, but that's actually not the placement rate. it's the percentage of people who got jobs who got them within 6 months instead of just some longer time frame. Every remote program I've seen has a huge dropout rate, springboard's rate is somewhere in the 20% graduation rate based on their data on their website and BloomTech has somewhere around a 50% being generous so TripleTen should be publishing their graduation rates in some capacity just so people know what the odds of actually finishing it are.
u/DizzyDoubt8199 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I asked the same question and I was told rarely. My success manager told me few to none do it only bcuz they don’t try to understand it. I’m in the Data Science program and I can assure you it’s not that hard. I know few people who went straight out of high school and are very ha
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Can you share in writing how they shared that with you? People contact me indicating that the dropout rate was absolutely not "rarely" and it was a goal to get people to stay longer (this was six months ago)
u/DizzyDoubt8199 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I asked him on video call. He has bene working for two years and told me there was only a case like this once where a student dropped bcuz they thought it was hard and had no educational background. I am also a student for software development so already knew majority of stuff. D
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Maybe you can DM me more, someone who works/worked there was explaining in detail how they were working to decrease the first sprint dropout rate and made good progress. It was definitely not rare for people to drop out almost right away.
I don't know who "him" is, but if they were there for 2 years that doesn't sound accurate.
What I suspect is people don't explicitly "drop out" but they just ghost and disappear and are still "enrolled" forever.
Completely agree with self paced programs it's almost impossible to come up with fair graduations rates, which is why I don't actually think it's sketchy that they don't publish something... it can be impossible to publish numbers without context, and they want to make sure the context is communicated properly.
u/DizzyDoubt8199 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
On the side note, I checked out your company and love what you offer. I wish I can afford that 😭😂😂 haha
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Yeah, 6 months to a year into your first job, stop by and check it out then!
u/Gassy_Gator wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I just finished sprint 2 final project and a lot of my cohort dropped out. It’s not easy to tell but the discord servers are less busy the more you progress in the sprints. It’s a lot of pressure especially with a life outside of studying. I’m a single mom and the deadlines are t
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Thanks for the update.
1. Do you still get a refund if you drop out?
2. Do people feel misled by the 86% placement rate or do they understand that it's not a placement rate, but rather a "percentage of people who got jobs, that got them within six months instead of longer" rate?