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Turing lets 14 staff members go without notice

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u/InTheDarkDancing wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I think it needs to be said it's possible that no one is a "bad guy" in these sorts of situations. Operating bootcamps is difficult, and everyone here is hyper-aware of how market conditions have changed over the past year. This doesn't necessarily mean the quality of education h

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited
100% it doesn't mean the program or company is bad, but it also doesn't mean you can keep on using old CIRR results to justify going to one today and you can blame companies for advertising 2022 or earlier placement rates not being open and transparent about decreasing placements rates when they have them internally and have goals around increasing them.

u/InTheDarkDancing wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

It seems like you're fishing for a way to interject that Codesmith had 20% layoffs, which I have no direct knowledge of but wouldn't surprise me. It's just so odd how critical of everything CIRR you can be, but according to your logic, if bootcamps didn't post any results and rel

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited
I'm representing the view of the current and former employees of many bootcamps and dozens of prospective students and alumni from conversations in the past month. I don't really care myself and don't have skin in the game either way.

u/jcasimir wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I’m not really going to go into personnel details, but we don’t make downsizing decisions based on salary. Also people have three months of insurance coverage. It’s tough to not be able to do the huge severance packages like tech companies, but we’re not one. We’re a little non-p

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Not a reply, but a commentary - IMO this is a good answer - acknowledging the tough market, acknowledging trying to find a way to support team but not being able to, but at the end of the day, striving to maintain the student experience. I can't judge that student experience because I haven't gone there or talked to anyone who went there or worked there, but the intention is clearly spelled out from the person that runs it, and it's open for people who agree/disagree to comment.

u/pandacatbear wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

It would be "open" if a Reddit user could actually comment here without Jeff using his resources to track them down and contact them individually outside of the Reddit forum, which he has done in response to comments I've made on his previous posts. The goal is intimidation and

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Yeah I agree that people shouldn't be contacting people off of Reddit unless that person brought it up, or the person literally asked on Reddit to be contacted, or asked for help or something.