RIP Coding Bootcamps

A challenge I've had over the years is the question of if bootcamps are selling the outcome or the process. In reality, you are paying for the process (a rapid crash course in engineering) and trying to get the best outcome you can (or no outcome at all). But most bootcamps sell their outcomes (like the hero banners of many bootcamps have their salary stats or outcomes statement in them!). If students pay for the process but bootcamps think they are selling the outcomes, there is a fundamental mismatch or disconnect in the market. I think "RIP Coding Bootcamps" is actually RIP "bootcamps selling you outcomes". Bootcamps with outcomes numbers in their hero banners are the ones that are "RIP". The existential challenge now is that If bootcamps sell you the process, then they are selling: crappy materials often copied/derived or licensed, teachers who recently graduated the program themselves, staff members with little industry experience, projects that are less substantial than CS degree projects, etc... and it's a hard sell that this is worth the $15/$20K anymore with AI out there providing better materials than that for free or $20/month. u/sherrifderek (I was trying to reply to you but your comments got threaded too deep)