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WSJ: Certificates aren't paying off either So no bootcamps, no masters, no certificates = NO SHORTCUTS TO CHANGING CAREERS. Exercise extreme caution before trying to get into tech without a full degree.

r/codingbootcamp

u/rp_edits wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I almost did a bootcamp to attempt a career shift last year. I took some online courses for free and did a lot of research. Made it to the last round of the free Codesmith program (for those making under 50K in NYC, with no prior tech experience). It sounded great. I did enjo

u/michaelnovati replied ·
I used to support that program philosophically but someone protectively told me that in the cohort cohort that graduated 4 months ago, they thought only one person got a job, and it's possible they dont have full visibility, but it sounded like it was at best a tiny number of people who got jobs and given that the program is benchmarked on getting people jobs paying $65K+. Four months isn't that long yet to draw conclusions but clearly they didn't have major partnerships set up to hire grads and I don't see how anyone would get hired with zero experience and zero technical background. The main instructor was also laid off and the current instructor has another job according to LinkedIn and they were asking for mentors paying them $25 an hour (which means your mentors are being paid less than the jobs the program is supposed to create which makes no sense... You're telling people that this program is making them $65,000 plus job ready, but you're paying the people who are teaching them less than that)