u/g8rojas wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
# Top Tier CS Grads vs Bootcamps First, the fact there is even an attempt to compare these two means that the “top tier” is not the lofty position one would have you think. Next, a superior student for a bootcamp is just like a superior student for a top tier school. Neither ca
u/michaelnovati replied ·
I think these arguments highlight the issues that come from lack of diversity in tech and why that's a big problem to solve.
But that doesn't change the argument that if Google/Meta/Cisco/etc... have tends of thousands of engineers... sophisticated calibration process to assess their performance relative to each other on metrics that are important to the businesses success... and bootcamp grads initially perform significantly worse than new grads from top CS schools.
I know a number of large companies that have tried and tried to hire bootcamp grads. When I bring it up to friends it's like 'omg no' type reaction followed by a story of how it burned them in the past that always unique to that person.
It's not A vs B and it's not going to be solved if both sides attack each other.
Bootcamp grads aren't initially as good. Accept that fact. Then figure out how to build pathways for bootcamp grads to rampup and grow to catch up.
For all we know, bootcamp grads might perform better 2 years from now than CS grads, but we'll never know because companies are expecting them to be equal on day one, and their data is telling them they aren't.