u/its-happenin-already wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Your last statement makes no sense for anyone remotely familiar with the industry. The bootcamp route was never reliable. It’s always been as “collapsed” as it appears now. The entry into tech 95% of the time was always a 4 year degree or years of relevant experience. Companies
u/michaelnovati replied ·
I know what I'm talking about yeah. I worked at FB for 8 years from 2009 to 2017, grew from 200 engineers to 10,000 engineers. Interviewed 400+ people, did dozen campus recruiting trips all over the place. Afterwards, I worked with early career, experienced, engineers to level and have seen hundreds of various levels, mostly with 1-3 YOE, but also from self taught, and bootcamp grads, navigate the market and place at companies big and small.
For FAANG-level companies - so the entry level headcount is being reserved for fall 2023 new grad hiring season. Because of recruiter layoffs, companies are being efficient by using the recruiters they have for tried and true new grad and intern pipelines at the top schools (Stanford, MIT, CMU, Berkeley, UT Austin, UW, some ivy leagues) to fill their headcount. So I agree right now, trying to be a bootcamp grad and getting new grad jobs is almost impossible. I've said this in other posts, but for diverse candidates, apprenticeships/"emerging talent" programs are the way to go! They are extremely competitive and most bootcamp grads are not prepared to compete with their bootcamp program alone, but it's at least a predictable pathway that works.